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Author: Ronald Neal Green
ISBN: 978-1-4327-1259-4
Publisher: OutskirtsPress
Today, Norm Goldman Publisher & Editor of Bookpleasures.com
is pleased to have as our guest, Ronald Neal Green, author of The
Duty of Love: A Novel.
Good day Ron and
thanks for participating in our interview
Norm:
I
notice from reading the back cover of The Duty of Love that you are a
recent student of the psychological insights of fairy tales and a
life long student of religion and mythic literature.
Could you
explain further and why you have been attracted to fairy tales and
mythic literature?
Ron:
I have always enjoyed the genre. But, what got me really interested was The Hero With A Thousand Faces by Joseph Campbell, and The Uses of Enchantment by Bruno Bettleheim. They opened me up to the psychological underpinnings of these literary forms and how extremely useful they are in resolving conflicts in people and society.
There are many issues that people cannot deal with directly, but myth and fairy tales turn our problems into monsters that the hero can slay or even befriend and thereby conquer. The ogre that dwells in each of us (or our parents, siblings or spouses) can be objectified and destroyed by the hero (us). It seems to me that we live in a nation of people who are having a great deal of difficulty growing up.
The breakup of families, the accelerating deterioration of stable
communities, and an excess of materialism suggest a real breakdown in
the development of personality integration and individuation in large
segments of the population. In an age that is dominated by the
loss of belief the fantastic becomes the way of fulfilling certain
psychic longings that have not and probably cannot be met by our
rationalistic environment and our educational process. For this
societies have traditionally used myth and fairy tales as non-linear
teaching tools and the need in modern society is, I feel, greater
than ever.
Norm:
How did you get started in writing?
What keeps you going?
Ron:
I got
started because I couldn't help myself. I've always known that
it is a high risk, irrational endeavor, but something keeps nagging
away inside until I write something. If I try to quit I become
depressed, irritable and a pain to be around. I keep going
because I can't stop.
Norm:
You have worn many hats,
as theatre, broadcasting, and a stint in paranormal studies. How have
these affected your writing and in particular your debut novel, The
Duty of Love?
Ron:
Theater and
broadcasting were extremely helpful as they gave me live audiences to
work with, and I developed a real feel for what works with people and
what doesn't. I also developed a lot more confidence in my
material and my abilities to connect with people on an emotional
level. Also, when I started acting the first thing we were
taught was that the first duty of an actor is to make sure the
audience can understand what he is saying. That's also good
advice for writers.
The paranormal studies were
extremely interesting but had a down side. Paranormal endeavors
are, quite often, based on a selfish desire to manipulate the
supernatural for personal gain. This desire can, if unchecked,
lead to a tendency to selfishness and self absorption that hinders
spiritual progress. It's very intriguing stuff, but can be
destructive. This book is, in part, a warning against using the
paranormal in ways that are destructive.
Norm:
Your work seems too have a broader mission than simply
entertaining or storytelling. Can you talk more about that mission
and what you hope readers will take away from The Duty of
Love?
Ron:
Without giving too much away, the
key to understanding this book is in the opening prolog and the final
dream sequence. If people understand those, the emotional
impact of the book is tremendous and all the little bits and pieces
fall into, I hope, a seamless whole. More generally, all people
are mystified by suffering and how to avoid it. And yet, it
can't be avoided, so how do we relate to it, and keep it from
overwhelming us? Children and young adults suffer a lot, and I
think this book will help them, even if it's only on a subconscious
level, to deal with that. This book is also written for adults,
many of whom I believe have been short changed by society in learning
to deal with these issues. This is the power of myth and fairy tales,
that they can take on issues that are hard to deal with directly and
answer these questions on an indirect or subconscious level.
Also,
of course, the book is about love and duty and the sacrifice they
entail and how the acceptance of these does not magnify the
suffering, but actually lessens it. Love is lived, nurtured and
expressed through sacrifice. To reject sacrifice is to reject
love.
Norm:
How did you get the inspiration for this
book?
Ron:
Actually, it started as a
writing exercise. Use good specific adverbs and adjectives,
alliteration, and after awhile I realized I had something and I
should make a book of it. Beyond that, I suppose it was an
upwelling of things I have been ruminating about for years. I
doubt if I could have planned the book in the traditional sense,
although the ending of the book came to me within moments of creating
the female lead Tanya.
Norm:
Did you
initially have a difficult time fleshing out your characters? As a
follow up, how did you go about creating the various
characters?
Ron:
Providentially, the characters
just showed up as needed. Remember, it was all just an
exercise, so that gave me great latitude. Tanya just showed up
because I thought the story would be awfully dull if it was only the
boy Charles. She asked it there was a beautiful princess,
because I wanted some conflict between her and her brother.
Conflict was one of the objects of the exercise. I have no idea
where Emily came from. The door opened and there she was.
Because I refused to take any of this seriously, and also because I
don't like to work from outlines, I could allow the story to grow in
an organic fashion. Whenever, I ran into trouble I would go
back to the exercise points--good, specific, adjectives and adverbs,
conflict, hooks, alliteration etc. and these would stimulate my
imagination to flesh out the characters. My approach gave me
permission to play with my characters until they "took over"
and began to speak for themselves. At times it was much like
Pirandello's "Six Characters in Search of an Author," where
the characters of an unfinished play seem to have a life force of
their own and demand the play be finished so their life force can be
expressed. Michelangelo spoke of "freeing the figures from
the stone." Sometimes when you write, you get
lucky.
Norm:
You write with a very vivid
and descriptive style. Do you use any particular techniques to help
with your writing or to help flesh out descriptive imagery? Are there
any writers you admire or look to for inspiration?
Ron:
Basic
writing principals. We're playing with words, and the words
must be as exact and specific as possible. Concentrating on
finding the right word is the single, best technique I know of to
help myself through the inevitable logjams of writing. As a
side note, I reject the advice that you must always use basic
Anglo-Saxon words. You just use the best word for the job, no
matter from where it comes. Dickens, I think, wrote the best
descriptions. His descriptions are tremendously interesting,
and do not call attention to themselves. Sometimes, writer's
descriptions call attention to their literary "brilliance"
but Dickens' descriptions are to me fascinating and always add to the
thrust of the story. He describes things at length and is not
afraid to make moral judgements about the things he describes and yet
the descriptions carry the story along and are not just descriptions
for the sake of description. Also, Hemmingway's Advice to a
Young Writer was very influential. Another influence, whom almost
no one has heard of, is Robert Greenwood who wrote Mr. Bunting in
Peace and War.
Norm:
What is the most difficult thing for
you about being a writer?
Ron:
Finding quality time to write. I still have a day job.
I write better when I get into the "zone" and it takes a
certain amount of separation from my other activities to sink into
the zone. I can force myself to write when I am tired but the
result is inevitably junk and not worth the paper.
Norm:
What in your estimate makes a good fantasy novel?
Ron:
A strong and well formed sense of right and wrong, a good moral
center of gravity. The Greek myths had this, Tolkien and Lewis
of course, and television shows like The Twilight Zone and The
X Files, were at base, very grounded in a sense of right and
wrong. The rest is just how imaginatively the author can get
the message in and still be entertaining. Also, of course, the
story should be internally consistent, and the better the writing and
the more real the characters the better. Can I relate to the
characters? How would I behave in their situation? Why
should I care what happens?
Norm:
When writing your book, did you ever have it in the back of your mind that you could turn it into a movie or television project?
Ron:
Seriously, when I wrote the book, I tried to keep the attitude
that is was just an exercise, and that I didn't care what happened to
it. Pure hypocrisy of course, but it helped me to focus on
making the book as good as I could make it, and not focusing on what
an imaginary set of other people might like or not like. I have
no way of knowing what an imaginary audience will like and trying to
write for them is about as destructive to good writing as anything I
can think of.
Now, that I'm finished, yes the idea of making it into a movie, or television project has crossed my mind once or twice. In fact on my web site thedutyoflove.com I have a box where visitors can vote on who they would like to see direct and produce the movie. Also, there are talent contests for writers, actors, artists and video wizards on the site.
Norm:
Can you tell us how you found representation for
your book? Did you pitch it to an agent, or query publishers who
would most likely publish this type of book? Any rejections? Did you
self-publish?
Ron:
I got out the Writer's Market and sent letters and samples to
every agent and publisher I thought would be remotely interested.
No luck, but it's a tough racket and I am an unknown. I swore
to myself, this manuscript is to good to rot in a closet and so I
went the self' publishing route.
Norm:
Are
you working on any books/projects that you would like to share with
us? (We would love to hear all about them!)
Ron:
I
have the first draft of the sequel Love of Duty written.
There will be a third and final volume, The Good King. I
am also exploring the possibility of hosting a radio show, details of
which are not clear yet. As they become clearer I'll release
the details on my web site. My mind bubbles with many other
ideas, but first things first and these are my immediate
priority.
Norm:
How can our readers find out more
about you and The Duty of Love?
Ron:
Go
to my WEBSITE. There you can find talent
contests for writers, illustrators, actors and video artists with
cash prizes and I will keep readers updated of my progress in my
other projects.
Norm:
Is there anything else you
wish to add that we have not covered?
Ron:
One of
the most fascinating things to me as the author, is how many
different reactions and interpretations I get of the book from
various readers. I thought the meaning of the book was pretty
clear but the different interpretations of the book "Was it all
just psychological?" Was it all just a dream?" show
me that it works on many different levels at once. Perhaps,
that's a hangover from the paranormal training. One
reader compared the ending of The Duty of Love to the ending
of the movie "2001." The book is almost like a
Rorschach test for the reader, so much so that I haven't been
forthcoming about my own interpretation. I prefer to reveal
more in the subsequent books and also believe, somewhat pompously
perhaps, that it's more helpful for the reader psychologically, to
explore and answer these things for themselves as opposed to my just
giving them the answer.
Norm:
Thanks once again and
good luck with all of your future endeavors.
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